• Adam Shamsi (CAS’24)

    Adam Shamsi (CAS’24) Profile

    Adam Shamsi (CAS’24) can be reached at ashamsi@bu.edu.

  • Faisal Ahmed (CAS’24)

    Faisal Ahmed (CAS’24) Profile

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There are 25 comments on POV: A Plea for Equitable Support for Pro-Palestinian Students

    1. I encourage Palestinian advocacy organizations and organized protests to focus on telling us about Palestinians themselves, in Israel, in the occupied territories, and in the Palestinian diaspora. Keep working to show people the humanity of Palestinians, in ways that force them to see Palestinians as people, not just victims, or terrorists. Such honest portrayals are hard to find, even in well intentioned media, etc.

      As for Hillel, I can say that the Hillel is an organization that exists around the world, designed to provide support for Jewish students on campuses. Is there such an organization for Muslim students, or Palestinians specifically, regardless of religious affiliation? BU could use a chapter, if so! This is a very worthwhile project, I think.

      If there isn’t such a thing, perhaps students could work together to create one. Keep using your voices. There are many Jews on campus who are Zionists, and yet dislike the current government in Israel and want to see a 2 state solution. These people could be allies. We are so much stronger when we work together, and focus on finding our friends, rather than trying to collaborate with people who have no interest in the cause.

  1. The only country in the world you believe doesn’t have a right to exist is the Jewish one? Yes, anti-Zionism is antisemitism. Regarding Palestinian lives, Hamas fully endangers them. There are countless videos of Hamas stealing humanitarian aid, sending rockets from humanitarian safe zones, preventing Palestinians from getting to safe zones, and using Palestinian as human shields. If you care about the lives of Palestinians, you should be putting your efforts towards demanding Hamas return the remaining hostages safely and surrender. You should not be targeting the campus’s Jewish organization Hillel that keeps Jewish students safe, especially Antisemitism in the US is reaching “historic levels” (source: FBI).

    1. Why is taking land from Palestinians the only way for a Jewish state to exist? Why do we play hop scotch with history to justify that? Why doesn’t this sentiment go the same way? Why does a need and desire for a Jewish state mean that the world’s Super Powers and a Zionist organization can take land from other people? How is that not the oppressed becoming the oppressor?

      1. Congrats on not knowing history! The Jewish state wasn’t established by taking Palestinian land. Pre 1948 Jews lived there and so did Arabs, the British thought of the genius idea of imposing borders, failed and then sent the task to the UN. After the partition plan Israel agreed and instead of establishing an independent Arab state called Palestine, the Arab League chose to attack the only Jewish state to remove it from the map. We never wanted anyone to be uprooted but those are results of war. 750K Palestinian refugees and surprisingly around 700K mizrahi Jews kicked out from Arab countries. So yea, all uprooting is wrong just one was intentional and racist whereas the other one was done due to a defensive war… Hmmm sounds a lot like todays war post Oct 7….

        1. I have written on this topic extensively I know the history. I’m saying that we are jumping around in history to justify bad behavior and that is something that only *bad actors* do. All semites lived together pre-1948 in relative harmony; indigenous Jewish people along side the long time Palestinian population. 2,000 years before that the demographic breakdown was flipped. I don’t think we should be praising a professional colonizing country for doing what they do best. There was peace and then they disrupted that by funding a land buying up and laying claim to what was previously land in common. That’s objectively aggressive and the beginning of the conflict. If this is what we want to do/agree with/allow then Indigenous people across the globe need to do the same asap.

  2. It’s very interesting to have read the “opposing” side before reading this. It just seems so ironic that the other article was talking about feeling so scared and unsafe, while directly being the cause for why another group is currently feeling scared and unsafe. Perspective or even lack of perspective is such a weird thing. This article brings a lot of nuance and perspective into the situation not just globally but right here at BU and I truly hope they get the support and protection they need.

  3. I don’t understand how anyone who supports the Palestinian people can support Hamas! This is the only organization in the world that killed more Palestinians than the IDF. I’ve been helping Palestinians for over 20 years now and I’m totally not on their side in this war.

    1. Where in this article did they mention supporting Hamas? Actually they lead with a rather critical view of Hamas saying they “ruthlessly killed” people. The rest of the article discusses campus resources. How about we focus on that instead.

        1. If you want Hamas to be labeled a terrorist organization so bad you should just as eagerly want to call Israel a similar term as well, considering they have and continue to commit more acts of terror than Hamas. Oh wait but now its complicated. Why is the “terrorism” label limited to subnational groups or clandestine agents if states such as Israel and the US are the biggest perpetrators of organized violence against civilians? The US loves to throw the word terrorism around to justify illegal and reprehensible military action, all while escaping criticism because the term can conveniently never be applied to them. It’s a loaded term, used as a war tool, that prevents actual discussion on what causes and prevents horrific violence.

  4. Dear Adam Shamsi (CAS’24) Faisal Ahmed (CAS’24),

    You are not alone. I am a Jewish graduate student at BU and former undergrad. I am a conflicted Zionist with a dream wishing fulfilment that both sides put down weapons and violence and welcome an era of peace.

    Where are the voices of reason? I fear we have traveled beyond, in a sense, safe harbours. We are now already contemplating how far our biases have led us and it is scary, in my view, to trust the “other side”. While Israel and Palestine war – we in the diaspora may find the relative calm and co-mixture of dread, fear, distrust, and tribal identity still allow for some measure of potential for productive dialogue. We are, after all, students, favourable to thought exercises and not barbarians competing for survival. We are better than that.

    The courageous among us will bravely sit doenm together, share tea, explore our thoughts and actions. Look for ways to calm our nerves and gain traction as committed to peace.

    1. From the river to the sea: “the catch-all phrase symbolizing Palestinian control over the entire territory of Israel’s borders, from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea”

      You don’t want Jews on campus, and you don’t want them in Israel.

      Where do you think they should go?

      1. When did anyone say they didn’t want Jewish people on campus? Many times anti-Zionist Jewish students are the ones saying “from the river to the sea”.

        1. It is such an embarrassing paradox to consider oneself Jewish but be against the homeland of all other Jews in the world.

          Self-hating Jews = Anti-Zionist Jews.

          Jews who use their Judaism to work against their distant relatives only safe home in the world are NOT real Jews.

  5. Thank you to these brave students for speaking out, even when they knew that bad actors who didn’t read the article would be slandering them in the comments. It is so important to put the actions of anti-Palestinian groups into perspective.

    The conflation of anti-Zionism with anti-semitism is harmful and ridiculous. Thank you for speaking out!

  6. I couldn’t agree more with every single thing that was stated in this article. BU has done an incredibly poor job addressing the GENOCIDE that is being committed against Palestinians at the hands of Israel and how that is affecting its Palestinian students. Without fail, every communication we’ve received from the university on the matter has had Zionist undertones and always concludes with what can only be described as a flippant one-liner that barely acknowledges Palestinian students. The reality of the situation is that jewish students bring a tremendous amount of money into this institution, so it is in university’s best interest to uplift those voices and suppress others. I’m absolutely disgusted by any and all students who continue to perpetuate the narrative that positions the perpetrators of this genocide as indigenous people fighting for their land. The fact of the matter is that indigenous people do not bomb their land. Indigenous people do not release toxic chemicals into the air. Indigenous people do not burn ancient tree farms. Indigenous people do not promote and commit ethnic cleansing. Colonial settlers do.

    FREE PALESTINE. FREE PALESTINE. FREE PALESTINE.

  7. All three of today’s POV students are brave to write publicly under their real names. All seek a less polarized and less bitter campus climate, although they have different ideas of what that would require.

    BU Today means well, but it doesn’t help the cause of campus civility to run only two POVs (where are the non-Zionist Jews, some of whom also feel marginalized here?), and to color-code them with Israeli and Palestinian flags. Both essays primarily address issues on campus, not in the Middle East. The distinction matters. For instance, pro-Palestine activists are not alone in believing that Arab and Muslim students on our campus need more support.

    If you decide not to run photos of local banners or events (a vigil? a Friday prayer? a controversial banner displayed in the Hillel or draped from a CAS window?), then how about photographing Faisal and Adam, as the Daily Free Press did a few weeks ago? We should support our students in expressing their views, not pigeonhole and sensationalize them.

  8. Your words: “The reality of the situation is that jewish students bring a tremendous amount of money into this institution, so it is in university’s best interest to uplift those voices and suppress others.”

    Translation: The Jews use their wealth and influence to control institutions and suppress other groups.

    You’re not even pretending anymore. If you are unable to criticize Israel without using the most basic of antisemitic tropes why should anyone take you or what you have to say seriously?

    1. I find it interesting that you would take my comments that were explicitly about Boston University as an institution and instead attempt to frame them as antisemitic critiques of Israel? Allow me to be clearer:

      Boston University has a considerable Jewish population.

      students = money (at ALL universities)

      Jewish students bringing a tremendous amount of money into the institution is not an antisemitic sentiment in the least; it’s simple math and logic. There’s a lot of Jewish students, all of whom need to pay for tuition, room & board, books, fees, etc., and it’s an expensive university– so yes, more students = more money

      At the end of the day, universities are businesses and it is in a business’ best interest to cater to its biggest investors. In this case, we’ve seen it play out through university-wide communications that practically don’t acknowledge the lived experiences of Palestinian students on our campuses and in our community since, after all, they are those who are presently having to witness the extermination of their people and grapple with the fact that they reside, go to school and work in, and pay taxes in a country that is directly funding and and contributing to that genocide. The university’s stance is evidenced not only by the communications they put out, but also through what they choose not to put out– you may recall the university did not put out a statement following the shooting of three university-age Palestinian students in Vermont, one of whom is now paralyzed from the chest down as a result. How are Palestinian students and community members meant to feel when the institutions they pertain to barely even pretend to care about their collective welfare?

      Whether or not you take me seriously is truly none of my concern. What is my concern, however, is when people offer poor translations of my words to better serve the narrative they’ve already constructed in their own minds.

      If you’re specifically wanting to discuss my critiques of Israel you are welcome to address those that I specifically voiced in the latter half of my original comment (re: colonization & ethnic cleansing), though I do ask that, moving forward, you leave the “translating” to the professionals

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